Richard Heinberg—PCI Senior Fellow and author of the new book, POWER: Limits and Prospects for Human Survival—was interviewed by Dave Gardner for the GrowthBusters podcast.

Richard shares what his research has revealed about humankind’s cultivation of power, including how we abuse it and how that now threatens our very existence. 

We discuss the importance of trust in the possible scenario that doesn’t drive us right off a cliff. The book is an effort to shift the conversation, to shift our culture – from one seeking and worshipping materialism, consumerism and more and more economic and population growth, to one that values beauty and self-limitation.